
ALAN WOLF ARKIN and Seth Michael May, a dialogue.
SMM-Alan, can I interview you for my students? For my acting Coach blog...I don't know how to answer these questions, people are shooting at me... cause I haven't experienced enough of these things to observe them. My reaction is Whoa... because it is... But that's not gonna help them, like your stories and workshops do
AA - I'll be happy to do an interview, but I'm not sure what I have to say is going to delight much of anyone. How do you want to do it?
If they don't delight anyone...
SMM-Alan, can I interview you for my students? For my acting Coach blog...I don't know how to answer these questions, people are shooting at me... cause I haven't experienced enough of these things to observe them. My reaction is Whoa... because it is... But that's not gonna help them, like your stories and workshops do
AA - I'll be happy to do an interview, but I'm not sure what I have to say is going to delight much of anyone. How do you want to do it?
If they don't delight anyone...
SMM They can go Fornicate w themselves, or what they can dream up for themselves. Ostrich, Donkey… I heard a story about someone with a chicken once….. I guess we write back and forth... I send the question and you send the answer? So what do you see that working actors have in common is the big question, it seems...
AA- What do I see that working actors have in common?All I can think of is the desire to work. Why they're working, what their motives are, where they hope to end up, what kind of work they want to do... That will vary, of course from actor to actor.
SMM- What's the type of actor you most like to act alongside with? I know you mentioned to me once about how focused Duvall was when you worked with him in Seven Percent Solution...
AA-Flexibility. The ability to relate to others. On occasion, when an actor is auditioning and there is a reader there with him, I'll see an actor move his chair upstage intentionally to draw the attention to himself and away from his reading partner.....that's an actor I don't want to work with. To me acting is a team sport, always has been, always will be
SMM-Nice,
When you've directed, what have you looked for in an actor?
AA-I like to work with actors who have a twinkle in their eye. Who know no matter how serious the work is , that's its ultimately a game and that one has to have a good time while doing it.
SMM- First thing you think when I say the word audition? What's the best way for an actor to deal with the audition part of the job?
AA-I advise actor by and large to treat auditions as a different job from that of actually working on a script. I think they should present their most interesting, secure self, particularly when they dont have a bead on the part. It is crucial not to look for love or help from the casting director, the producer or the director. Most of the time they dont know what the hell they want and are looking for you to tell them what they want. Be strong, find a way to feel secure.
Can you share some of the tips or tricks you've used to feel secure? I'm know actors who will be like, yeah, but he's Alan Arkin...
AA-Yes, supposedly, I'm "ALAN ARKIN." But I wasn't "ALAN ARKIN" when I was auditioning. In the days when I was auditioning, I was alan arkin. I had to use the same tools to feel comfortable that all actors are supposed to have after a year or two in acting school. That shouldnt be news. Have an action. AFFECT THE PERSON YOU'RE READING WITH. LISTEN. Get your mind off what the casting director might or might not be thinking. Dont go in there to please anyone. Give yourself a five minute piece of time that you'll remember.
SMM-Can you give an example of the most fun for yourself you've had in an audition?
AA - I had fun with all my auditions once I started doing the things I outlined in the last blog.
AA- What do I see that working actors have in common?All I can think of is the desire to work. Why they're working, what their motives are, where they hope to end up, what kind of work they want to do... That will vary, of course from actor to actor.
SMM- What's the type of actor you most like to act alongside with? I know you mentioned to me once about how focused Duvall was when you worked with him in Seven Percent Solution...
AA-Flexibility. The ability to relate to others. On occasion, when an actor is auditioning and there is a reader there with him, I'll see an actor move his chair upstage intentionally to draw the attention to himself and away from his reading partner.....that's an actor I don't want to work with. To me acting is a team sport, always has been, always will be
SMM-Nice,
When you've directed, what have you looked for in an actor?
AA-I like to work with actors who have a twinkle in their eye. Who know no matter how serious the work is , that's its ultimately a game and that one has to have a good time while doing it.
SMM- First thing you think when I say the word audition? What's the best way for an actor to deal with the audition part of the job?
AA-I advise actor by and large to treat auditions as a different job from that of actually working on a script. I think they should present their most interesting, secure self, particularly when they dont have a bead on the part. It is crucial not to look for love or help from the casting director, the producer or the director. Most of the time they dont know what the hell they want and are looking for you to tell them what they want. Be strong, find a way to feel secure.
Can you share some of the tips or tricks you've used to feel secure? I'm know actors who will be like, yeah, but he's Alan Arkin...
AA-Yes, supposedly, I'm "ALAN ARKIN." But I wasn't "ALAN ARKIN" when I was auditioning. In the days when I was auditioning, I was alan arkin. I had to use the same tools to feel comfortable that all actors are supposed to have after a year or two in acting school. That shouldnt be news. Have an action. AFFECT THE PERSON YOU'RE READING WITH. LISTEN. Get your mind off what the casting director might or might not be thinking. Dont go in there to please anyone. Give yourself a five minute piece of time that you'll remember.
SMM-Can you give an example of the most fun for yourself you've had in an audition?
AA - I had fun with all my auditions once I started doing the things I outlined in the last blog.
SMM-Do you recall the first time you had fun at an audition, then?
AA-Vaguely
SMM-Can you elaborate... I know you didn't want to audition for The Russians are Coming.
AA-Vaguely
SMM-Can you elaborate... I know you didn't want to audition for The Russians are Coming.
AA-Seth, my friend, I'm not moved to talk about much. You've got to come up with stuff, not me. This was your idea, not mine. If you don't have any questions for me lets forget about the next few I had promised. Its all fine. I have no particular rant and I'm not going to ask my own question. I haven't got the energy
SMM-What’s your way of a approaching a part? What type of training has helped you get the most?
AA-Its an impossible question to answer, Seth. Whatever technique I have has seeped into my bones now and I dont spend much time referring to it any more. I either get sparked when I read a script or I dont. If I do, I know how to do it. If I dont, I pass. On the rare occasion where I take something that I dont spark to, I churn and twist around inside myself until something comes floating up out of the bog and tells me what to do. As to the second part of your question, everything feeds on everything else. My improv work at Second City was hugely important, it felt as if I crammed twenty years of training into two years.....I worked with a great teacher in LA when I was in my teens, who himself had worked with Stanislavski......and in the final analysis, its all training. All the time. Your whole life is training. Each part you play is training for your life and the next part you play. Each moment of your life is training for the next moment of your life
SMM-If there's one piece of advice you could give an actor today what would it be?
AA-This is a tough time in the country. Usually when there's a serious economic downturn there is a rise in audiences for film, theater, etc. It’s not the case now and no one knows why. The educated guess is that since people don’t have money for these things, they're using free tv more, as well as the kiosks that rent movies for a buck a day. In addition, actors are prone to voodoo thinking. That if you have your mind off your career for one minute it will go down the drain. They think calling their agent ten times a day is part of their acting work; they think that reading the trades over and over is part of the work, they think sitting and waiting for the phone to ring is part of the work; they think that sitting in coffee houses and yakking about acting for hours is part of the work; the truth is that none of these things are part of the work. Its time wasting voodoo. Its crucial to remember what people in the EASTERN part of the world know, and that is you are not your work. Acting is something you do. It is not something you are. Explore what you are. Who you are. Know yourself. Find interests that could lead to making a living that have fluid hours so that you can continue to look for acting work if your emotional life tells you that you must try to act. But remember that everything you do, every interest that you have or take on will feed your acting ability. The bigger, broader person you are will make you a bigger broader actor. Simultaneously it will keep you from being a love slave to the profession. It will allow you to approach auditions and also the parts you get with a sense of joy instead of terror. And it will also make you a happier, saner person. Guaranteed.
SMM-What’s your way of a approaching a part? What type of training has helped you get the most?
AA-Its an impossible question to answer, Seth. Whatever technique I have has seeped into my bones now and I dont spend much time referring to it any more. I either get sparked when I read a script or I dont. If I do, I know how to do it. If I dont, I pass. On the rare occasion where I take something that I dont spark to, I churn and twist around inside myself until something comes floating up out of the bog and tells me what to do. As to the second part of your question, everything feeds on everything else. My improv work at Second City was hugely important, it felt as if I crammed twenty years of training into two years.....I worked with a great teacher in LA when I was in my teens, who himself had worked with Stanislavski......and in the final analysis, its all training. All the time. Your whole life is training. Each part you play is training for your life and the next part you play. Each moment of your life is training for the next moment of your life
SMM-If there's one piece of advice you could give an actor today what would it be?
AA-This is a tough time in the country. Usually when there's a serious economic downturn there is a rise in audiences for film, theater, etc. It’s not the case now and no one knows why. The educated guess is that since people don’t have money for these things, they're using free tv more, as well as the kiosks that rent movies for a buck a day. In addition, actors are prone to voodoo thinking. That if you have your mind off your career for one minute it will go down the drain. They think calling their agent ten times a day is part of their acting work; they think that reading the trades over and over is part of the work, they think sitting and waiting for the phone to ring is part of the work; they think that sitting in coffee houses and yakking about acting for hours is part of the work; the truth is that none of these things are part of the work. Its time wasting voodoo. Its crucial to remember what people in the EASTERN part of the world know, and that is you are not your work. Acting is something you do. It is not something you are. Explore what you are. Who you are. Know yourself. Find interests that could lead to making a living that have fluid hours so that you can continue to look for acting work if your emotional life tells you that you must try to act. But remember that everything you do, every interest that you have or take on will feed your acting ability. The bigger, broader person you are will make you a bigger broader actor. Simultaneously it will keep you from being a love slave to the profession. It will allow you to approach auditions and also the parts you get with a sense of joy instead of terror. And it will also make you a happier, saner person. Guaranteed.
SMM-Sounds like a good way to end this one...
Alan Wolf Arkin is in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Seth Michael May is in New York City, New York.
and can be reached via http://www.actingonimpulse.org/